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paul zummo

Eugene Robinson is by leaps and bounds the dumbest and most intellectually dishonest major newspaper coulmunist I have ever read, and that includes the likes of Dowd and Krugman.

Engineer

1 dead for every 4 randomly selected home. That's bad no matter how you look at it. (They interviewed 1,840 random people and found over 547 dead - 92% of those showed the death certificate)

If you think about it we've dropped over 240,000 cluster bombs. We'd be fools to think they didn't kill anyone. Add in gunfire and car bombs and 600,000 dead doesn't seem that big.

Engineer

1 dead for every 4 randomly selected home. That's bad no matter how you look at it. (They interviewed 1,840 random people and found over 547 dead - 92% of those showed the death certificate)

If you think about it we've dropped over 240,000 cluster bombs. We'd be fools to think they didn't kill anyone. Add in gunfire and car bombs and 600,000 dead doesn't seem that big.

ErnestD

Paul Zummo, take a look at the figures again.

They didn't interview "1840 random people;" they sampled 1849 households that were grouped into 47 clusters. There were a total of 12,801 people in these clusters.

The survey teams "randomly" chose these 47 locations, leaving out two of the least violent Governorates in Iraq, then went house to house until they had interviewed 40 households in the same little cluster area. As even the authors admit, "the potential exists for interviewers to be drawn to especially affected houses through conscious or unconscious processes." Say, for example, because they are opposed to the US occupation and know that the people who are paying them, the survey supervisors, are outspoken anti-war activists who already believe the US should leave Iraq and wish to help change the public perception of the war.

(The authors also apparently undersampled rural regions, leading to inflated violent death numbers and an artificially low non-violent death baseline.)

Second, the researchers recorded a death certificate as "present" in only 80% of the total deaths, not 92% as stated misleadingly in the article. Only 545 certificates were requested, and 501 of these were "present"...but researchers did not ask for certificates in the remaining cases (total deaths=629). As for whether each certificate was examined rigorously and tested for authenticity...the article isn't clear on this and I wouldn't hold my breath.

This lack of rigor is, regrettably, common in epidemiology and also largely unavoidable. It happens when a Western researcher with little or no local linguistic or cultural fluency uses a local research team to investigate a controversial topic in an underdeveloped country. The data are unverifiable and amount to hearsay. The subjects tell the survey team what they think they want to hear, and the survey team consciously or unconsciously directs the survey and redacts/compiles the results in such a manner as to obtain what they think the Western supervisors want to hear.

ErnestD

Sorry, Paul, I meant Engineer.

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